President Carmen Twillie Ambar talks with Kara Swisher, host of the New York Times podcast "Sway"

"No Parties. No Sports. How Oberlin College Is Surviving the Pandemic" — In this episode of the podcast “Sway,” host Kara Swisher talks with President Carmen Twillie Amber about the impact the pandemic has had on higher education and how it has changed the academic experience. During their conversation they discuss what led to the decision to close the Oberlin campus, what needed to happen to bring students back for in-person learning, and the lasting implications the pandemic might have on colleges and universities. They also explore the cost implications of the pandemic on higher education and they talk about issues surrounding diversity on college campuses.

"Sway" is a long-form, twice-weekly opinion podcast, sharing substantive conversations with people in power across business, government, and culture. Presented by The New York Times Opinion, past guests have included Bill Gates, Elon Musk, Hillary Clinton, Isabel Wilkerson and many more. 

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