Frank Rich is a weekly op-ed columnist for The New York Times. He
came to Oberlin this week to open the 2005-2006 Convocation series, and the
Review had the chance to sit down with him for some questions.
How would you define the overall purpose of your column?
I would say
that what’s always informed my writing is looking at the intersection
between culture and the news. Even in my years as a theater critic I was trying
to break down the walls between the two. I definitely don’t write a
straight political column.
Do you think that artists and cultural figures have a right or
responsibility to involve themselves in politics?
I think that, of course,
artists have the right to take political stands and say whatever they want. They
also have the right to make art that is completely apolitical. The cultural
figures that concern me more are those that may not have as much visible
influence on our culture but are gradually pushing the mass media toward being
just a mouthpiece for those in power.
Do you think that the development of the Internet as a medium will lead to
more points of view reaching a mass audience?I think it’s too early to
tell. Of course ideally a zillion flowers should bloom on the internet but
history suggests that before long the Internet will be colonized by a few
corporations. When radio began there were tons of radio stations. It was just
like the Internet and bloggers are now. Even in a town like Oberlin every few
blocks could have a radio station. Gradually, the networks developed and those
millions of voices disappeared. Everyone always feels each new technology will
lead to more diversity, but it still ends up being consolidated.
The “liberal media” has long been a favorite target of
political conservatives, but lately liberal commentators — Eric Alterman,
for instance — have been arguing that this characterization is inaccurate
and, in fact, the media is predominantly conservative. Where do you stand in
this debate?
I basically agree with Eric. There are newspapers that have
liberal editorial pages and papers that don’t. When you get into the mass
media, television and radio, they’re nearly all conservative. You almost
never see a dissenting view on television. These corporations that own so much
of the media get invested in a plot-line like Natalie Halloway or that moral
values decided the last election. These story lines can be completely fictional,
but they are always conservative in nature and allow the corporations to avoid
asking questions. It can also lead to dangerous fictional narratives like the
run-up to the war in Iraq.
How do you reconcile this deferential attitude of the news media with the
somewhat more hostile relationship between “values-conservatives”
and the American entertainment industry?
The fact is that the relationship
really isn’t that hostile and they’re not really going to the mat.
These entertainment companies are huge corporations where the news division is
just a flea and they need money so they’re really not out to challenge
Washington. A lot of what goes on in Washington is just posturing. Almost all
these companies are run by Republicans. At the same time the government is not
really going to take Desperate Housewives off the air. They are going to
go after the one vulnerable place,, which is public broadcasting. That’s
where they can defund a children’s show with a lesbian couple and everyone
will look away because there’s no corporation involved.
The irony is that the great conservative Rupert Murdoch produces more sleazy
entertainment than anyone in the world. These politicians like to vent about
Paris Hilton but in the end they’re not going to do very much. The whole
thing is an elaborate game.
There’s been a lot of criticism of the media’s Hurricane
Katrina coverage, particularly in terms of issues of class and race. Do you
think this criticism is fair?
The coverage was slow to point out the obvious,
that mainly poor and black people were suffering. That people didn’t
notice this was silly but eventually they caught up. Just as the news media
didn’t give a shit about Al Qaeda on Sept. 10 and was so interested in
searching for Chandra Levy, in the lead-up to this disaster they were obsessed
with Natalie Halloway and went down South to lash themselves to trees and have
their usual fun with hurricanes. Although I have to say, the seriousness of what
was happening certainly sank in with them before it sank in with Washington.
Do you think the criticism of Bush in the wake of Katrina is a real
turning point or just another flash in the pan?
I’ve taken the position
that this administration is in terrible trouble politically before Katrina.
This is just sort of the coup de grace. The polls show his ratings haven’t
moved at all. People have just sort of turned the page. The
administration’s political fate is going to be measured by the Republican
Party. Nixon was only in real trouble when people in his own party turned
against him. You have to wonder at what point people will need a major course
correction.
One major fallout from Katrina is that I don’t think he can now name
another white man to the Supreme Court.
When your Times colleague David Brooks spoke at Oberlin last year
he was somewhat critical of students involving themselves in politics.
What’s your view?
Well, you shouldn’t be involved to the extent
of neglecting your education, but we always need more people involved in the
political process, not less. We’ve all screwed it up and we need you all
to fix it.